[Bug localedata/25508] New: mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of days and months into the official Kreol Morisien Orthography

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[Bug localedata/25508] New: mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of days and months into the official Kreol Morisien Orthography

glaubitz at physik dot fu-berlin.de
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25508

            Bug ID: 25508
           Summary: mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of
                    days and months into the official Kreol Morisien
                    Orthography
           Product: glibc
           Version: 2.31
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
          Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
          Reporter: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
                CC: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
  Target Milestone: ---

Copied from (better make a new bug for this instead of reopening an old one):

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21971

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[Bug localedata/25508] mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of days and months into the official Kreol Morisien Orthography

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Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

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[Bug localedata/25508] mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of days and months into the official Kreol Morisien Orthography

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--- Comment #1 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
Denis Jean <[hidden email]> write:

The correct orthography for Kreol Morisien(Mauritian Creole) can be verified at

http://www.cleverdodo.mu/userfiles/media/Lortograf%20Kreol%20Morisien.pdf

Section 6.1.1

This is the official language that is being taught at school and the University
of Mauritius, using this document as guide. This document has precedence over
any other according to lecturers even over the official dictionary. The
language is young and not set in stones, but for the days and months, the
dictionary and AKM orthography follow the same rules.

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[Bug localedata/25508] mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of days and months into the official Kreol Morisien Orthography

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--- Comment #2 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
Created attachment 12260
  --> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=12260&action=edit
mfe_MU.new

The new locale file, copied from:

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21971#c6

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[Bug localedata/25508] mfe_MU locale: Correct orthography for the name of days and months into the official Kreol Morisien Orthography

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--- Comment #3 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
Diff between the new and the old file:

$ diff -u mfe_MU mfe_MU.new
--- mfe_MU      2019-10-01 11:20:59.528309271 +0200
+++ mfe_MU.new  2020-02-05 15:32:42.887282654 +0100
@@ -12,14 +12,14 @@
 % Contributed by Akhilesh Kumar <[hidden email]>

 LC_IDENTIFICATION
-title      "Morisyen locale for Mauritius"
+title      "Morisien locale for Mauritius"
 source     "Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd."
 address    ""
 contact    ""
 email      "[hidden email]"
 tel        ""
 fax        ""
-language   "Morisyen"
+language   "Morisien"
 territory  "Mauritius"
 revision   "1.0"
 date       "2017-08-18"
@@ -43,52 +43,51 @@
 copy "i18n"
 END LC_CTYPE

-% http://demo.icu-project.org/icu-bin/locexp?d_=en&_=mfe
 LC_TIME
 % Abbreviated weekday names
-abday  "dim";/
-       "lin";/
-       "mar";/
-       "mer";/
-       "ze";/
-       "van";/
-       "sam"
+abday  "Dim";/
+       "Lin";/
+       "Mar";/
+       "Mer";/
+       "Ze";/
+       "Van";/
+       "Sam"
 %
 % Full weekday names
-day     "dimans";/
-       "lindi";/
-       "mardi";/
-       "merkredi";/
-       "zedi";/
-       "vandredi";/
-       "samdi"
+day     "Dimans";/
+       "Lindi";/
+       "Mardi";/
+       "Merkredi";/
+       "Zedi";/
+       "Vandredi";/
+       "Samdi"
 % Abbreviated month names
-abmon  "zan";/
-       "fev";/
-       "mar";/
-       "avr";/
-       "me";/
-       "zin";/
-       "zil";/
-       "out";/
-       "sep";/
-       "okt";/
-       "nov";/
-       "des"
+abmon  "Zan";/
+       "Fev";/
+       "Mar";/
+       "Avr";/
+       "Me";/
+       "Zien";/
+       "Zil";/
+       "Out";/
+       "Sep";/
+       "Okt";/
+       "Nov";/
+       "Des"
 %
 % Full month names
-mon     "zanvie";/
-       "fevriye";/
-       "mars";/
-       "avril";/
-       "me";/
-       "zin";/
-       "zilye";/
-       "out";/
-       "septam";/
-       "oktob";/
-       "novam";/
-       "desam"
+mon     "Zanvie";/
+       "Fevriye";/
+       "Mars";/
+       "Avril";/
+       "Me";/
+       "Zien";/
+       "Zilie";/
+       "Out";/
+       "Septam";/
+       "Oktob";/
+       "Novam";/
+       "Desam"
 %
 d_t_fmt     "%a %d %b %Y %T %Z"
 d_fmt       "%d//%m//%y"
@@ -170,14 +169,14 @@

 LC_ADDRESS
 postal_fmt   "%f%N%h%s%N%T"
-country_name "Moris"
+country_name "Mauritius"
 country_ab2  "MU"
 country_ab3  "MUS"
 country_num  480
 %
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_vehicle_registration_codes
 country_car  "MS"
 country_isbn "978-613,978-620,978-99903,978-99949"
-lang_name    "kreol morisien"
+lang_name    "Kreol Morisien"
 lang_term    "mfe"
 lang_lib     "mfe"
 END LC_ADDRESS
$

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--- Comment #4 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
-country_name "Moris"
+country_name "Mauritius"

This change is probably wrong because country_name should
contain the name of the country in the language of this locale, i.e. in Kreol
Morisien, not in English. The English name of the country is in:

territory  "Mauritius"

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--- Comment #5 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
-language   "Morisyen"
+language   "Morisien"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauritian_Creole says:

> Mauritian Creole or Morisien or formerly Morisyen (Mauritian Creole: kreol morisien

So this change is probaly OK, "Morisien" seems to be the newer spelling.

CLDR still has "Morisyen:

https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/master/common/main/en.xml#L380

<language type="mfe">Morisyen</language>

So this should probably be fixed in CLDR as well.

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--- Comment #6 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
All other changes seem to be upper casing the first letter of
the words (for the days of the week for example). I am not sure about these
changes, CLDR has all of these in lower case.

-lang_name    "kreol morisien"
+lang_name    "Kreol Morisien"

Both CLDR and Wikipedia have this in lower case.

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--- Comment #7 from Denis Jean <later01 at gmail dot com> ---
Thank you very much, I don't know if you are Mauritian, and can read the
document I linked. I am a Kreol Morisien educator at primary school level
and can give clarification if needed. However I do not know how to code the
locale correctly. I will need to find out how to use this as my new locale
in Linux now.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 4:56 PM maiku.fabian at gmail dot com <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=25508
>
> --- Comment #6 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
> All other changes seem to be upper casing the first letter of
> the words (for the days of the week for example). I am not sure about these
> changes, CLDR has all of these in lower case.
>
> -lang_name    "kreol morisien"
> +lang_name    "Kreol Morisien"
>
> Both CLDR and Wikipedia have this in lower case.
>
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